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Edited by Neil Anderson, Thursday, 9 Feb 2012, 20:32

I've spent the last couple of days resting-up [when not working] trying to stick to my new sumo wrestler diet [without the beer] and doing some maths. That was the plan for tonight too.

Before I get started with work it is my wont to do a wee bit of displacement activity [like this!] So I was perusing my feed reader when I noticed that a lot of standardnistas were posting—something had happened. 

[Probably the best description of the problem is here...]

I don't do much [creative] web work any more, but it was where I started OU-wise and I retain a love for and an interest in it. I'll certainly create sites in the future, so my first thought was what does this mean for me? Not-a-lot; most of the features they're talking about I don't use. I don't use them because of exactly the problems they are talking about. Then I had some other thoughts.

  1. I do sometimes use these when I writing javascript CSS.
  2. I will probably have to use them when I re-design the nonsense this summer for mobiles [the current plan].
  3. The main thrust of the argument is that this might lead us back into the type of browser lock-in hell that we had with IE6

Three is the clincher here. If it is the problem.

I'm not sure that there is a big problem in allowing webkit to create de facto standards. Most bleeding-edge web stuff uses webkit [doesn't work anywhere else]; in many ways it's what's driving the web forward. Mozilla and the rest are chasing the game.

Then we have the total mess that are web standards. Nobody seems to be able to agree on anything. [Although I should stress that that isn't CSS3, which is what the current stushie is all about. Although HTML5 seems to have become the new web 2.0; a catch-all term for a whole load of different things.]

Here's something else[about accessibility] that I read today, something that I totally agree with. [Again a totally different specification; same mess though.] If we can't get that right [and there's some pretty basic stuff there]?

Perhaps we'd be doing ourselves a favour letting the browser vendors drive the web forward? Especially if they agree to support each others implementations? [Although I might not have completely understood that bit, it seems a little too good to be true and I worry anytime IE is in the mix.]

In the end we coped with the mess that was IE6 and we have a better browser gene-pool nowadays. Do we really have anything to worry about.

There also seems to be a bit of browser-sniffing going on here, which is always evil and should never been done in anything that you intend for the open web.

 

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Arrghhhh Neil, web accessibility for people with disabilities.  Nobody seems to understand the needs of users (massive overgeneralisation of course!!).  Just a personal whinge because I don't have a clue about the technicalities but I do know it's a minefield.  For many people with vision impairments, so much time is 'wasted' trying to navigate poorly designed sites.

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There's a 30 point module on web accessibility. H809 or is it h810? I've been over to IET to see the labs used for testing, including accessibility where the OU are world leaders. Many kinds of disabilities are covered with kit to assist access too. A fascinating and worthwhile area of study that also informs and improves usability for those of us who have 20/20 and are blessed with good mental and physical health.
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@Susan

Accessibility isn't soo hard. Often it isn't done because there's a pressure from 'stakeholders' for it not to be. It goes from, "we don't have any blind users" [how would you know?] to, "can we not make it look a bit more interesting? Perhaps some moving images?"

I'll admit that, for my school site, I've spent quite a lot of time trying to get things right. From watching if people if people squint when the first load, never using a mouse when I visit using my home computer to listening to pages read out by a machine. But I think that it was worth it because...

@John

Perceptive as ever! If you make things accessible for, say users with poor sight, you make things easier for every user.

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