No decent, right-thinking human being should glory in the death of another human. I was tested today, I passed. I was utterly unmoved.
Much of what is wrong with this world today involves that thatcher person. She re-introduced an idea that isn't new, bolsheviks and nazis both used it: terror. She attacked people, people who other people might have atavistic instincts about, "the enemy within".
Much like the current government are attacking the undeserving poor, or the lame, or just anyone who they pay; a sub-section of society, one that most of the voters don't identify with.
The worst thing about the whole thing was that personally she wasn't very evil, she just didn't understand what she was doing.
Somwhere today I read that she, "rolled back the corrosive collective culture".
Collective culture, that is people being nice to people? Isn't it?
So bankers not fucking the world for their own profit and not even saying sorry, the government who can spend billions to prop up bankers bonuses pick on anyone who gets...
You know the gig
So while I won't delight in your death thatcher I think you were a horrible thing for the world...
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With family where we have strongly red, green, blue, yellow and doesn't give a hoot (the 5,14 and 16 year olds). One is Italian, one Polish. I'm more of a social observer and have voted all the above, also brown and UKIP at various stages. Just glad Arthur Scargill isn't running the country and the IRA didn't bomb their way into power which I pressume Neil you would have preferred?New comment
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WHAT!!
Because I didn't like thatcher I support the IRA? Most of my relations are of the opinion that Paisley in his pomp was a limp-wrist liberal. Not my opinion, I just think that they, the IRA, were degenerate shits.
Or Scargill? A personal unfavourite of mine and as I was a recipient of beating from some of his boys when I suggested, during the strike, that he was full of shite, not someone that I give a fuck about. In fact someone who I will be glad to see die in a bad way. he was/is an evil greedy shit.
See. That's what thatcher has done to us; I suggest that I don't like thatcher and you assume that I support people who want to bomb you or some stupid gangster.
Hate, as soon as you introduce it into an argument, sense leaves by the back door.
nellie
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No, dancing on a person's grave reflects badly on the dancer.
What Thatcher's actions showed to me was, unlikely as this seems, that national government has very little power. Remember that Denis Healey had to go 'cap-in-hand' to the IMF/World Bank to bail out his policies.
Does this remind you of somewhere present?
How much of what we ascribe to Thatcherite policies would have to have been implemented anyway? Greater forces at work than a little post-colonial national government can wield.
I lived in a 60's North West with collieries and mills shutting down. Remember Fred Dibnah? I lived in his world, when he got a name for himself collapsing the mill chimneys around Bolton. He got fame, but so many found they were not the centre of the world, but a little provincial area of a much bigger world.
..and Thatcher is a name we give for a painful, temporary solution to the problem of stagnation, and continuing irrelevance in a globalised world.
[Rant,rant, just lost my job to Bombay cheap IT, hence references to globalisation].
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Agree soooo much with a lot of your post here, Neil. I'd just left home when Thatch grabbed the reins & made my life forever different, in a very difficult way.
Still, glad that Scargill, Red Robbo, IRA Bader-Meinhof . . . . . . . aren't running the country either.
Not a lot to say for ANY leader after her either, just took the framework she introduced & hung their policies on it. Didn't change things at all. Made it worse.
Went to Durham for a residential a while ago & when I arrived the whole town was closed due to the Miners marching through town all day. I bought a Dutch person along with me who asked what was going on.
"It's the miners marching" I said.
Really? Are there mines around here?" he asked.
"Er! . . . . well, no, not really!"
"Why are they marching?"
What could I say . . . . "Thatcher! and tradition."
He couldn't understand the accent much either, nor could I.