Edited by Jonathan Vernon, Monday, 29 Aug 2011, 16:07
I was judgmental on Martin Weller quoting himself in H807 ... but I have just bought the book and buy into.
So why do I feel so uncomfortable about Weller or any other 'academic' quoting themselves.
Surely there are standards and expectations?
Who are we to quote ourselves, just because we got into print or had our words used in a piece of academic study to then cite ourselves and in so doing award ourselves additional recognition?
Imagine Simon Cowell deciding to get up and sing ... and then judging his own performance and deciding to award himself credibility?
Is there some etiquette regarding this kind of thing?
(Must be, academia has rules for everything, no wonder it's so dull)
Academically stimulating, but hardly a Caravagio.
At what point do you become 'self-quotable?
Did Churchill quote himself?
As Churchill said ... (he says) ...
(Or by writing your own speeches you are quoting yourself? Ditto lectures)
Can I quote myself as if this has some value ... things I posted online in 1999? Or put in a dairy in 1985? Or even wrote in a History essay on the Reformation in 1977? (Files saved, in a trunk, in an attic, in a room, in a building ... and could just as well be scanned and banged up online
Or is this lacks credibility then short films broadcast on mainstream TV?
Or things I said to important people ?
Look up the correct use of disinterested Mr Weller – (do you have an editor or proof reader?) It does NOT mean ‘no interested it means ‘not committed to one or other point of view, rather as a judge should be in a trial i.e. interested, but not taking sides.’
Odd how the pinnacle of my irritation is indicative of my reaching a tipping point
This is a watershed, where my opinions are expressed in increasingly frustrated ways until I find myself screwing up my face, then edging down the other side, won over to the opposing view, having convinced myself that black is now white. That ‘they’ are right and I am wrong ... I become evangelical on their behalf, whether they want it or not, before coming to some grey compromise. I’ve just about read enough on learning theory to be able to categorise my approach to learning.
It is ?
This comes from reading ‘Contemporary Perspectives in E-Learning Research. 2007. Edited by Grainne Conole and Martin Oliver.
The turning point, the ‘flip’ came with looking up a reference for Martin Oliver ... and deciding that I needed to see fourteen points of reference. His book, his privilege. He’d wrong-foot himself did he not refer back to previously published papers.
I've got Martin Weller in box too, bought the book.
Quote yourself happy
I was judgmental on Martin Weller quoting himself in H807 ... but I have just bought the book and buy into.
So why do I feel so uncomfortable about Weller or any other 'academic' quoting themselves.
Surely there are standards and expectations?
Who are we to quote ourselves, just because we got into print or had our words used in a piece of academic study to then cite ourselves and in so doing award ourselves additional recognition?
Imagine Simon Cowell deciding to get up and sing ... and then judging his own performance and deciding to award himself credibility?
Is there some etiquette regarding this kind of thing?
(Must be, academia has rules for everything, no wonder it's so dull)
Academically stimulating, but hardly a Caravagio.
At what point do you become 'self-quotable?
Did Churchill quote himself?
As Churchill said ... (he says) ...
(Or by writing your own speeches you are quoting yourself? Ditto lectures)
Can I quote myself as if this has some value ... things I posted online in 1999? Or put in a dairy in 1985? Or even wrote in a History essay on the Reformation in 1977? (Files saved, in a trunk, in an attic, in a room, in a building ... and could just as well be scanned and banged up online
Or is this lacks credibility then short films broadcast on mainstream TV?
Or things I said to important people ?
Look up the correct use of disinterested Mr Weller – (do you have an editor or proof reader?) It does NOT mean ‘no interested it means ‘not committed to one or other point of view, rather as a judge should be in a trial i.e. interested, but not taking sides.’
Odd how the pinnacle of my irritation is indicative of my reaching a tipping point
This is a watershed, where my opinions are expressed in increasingly frustrated ways until I find myself screwing up my face, then edging down the other side, won over to the opposing view, having convinced myself that black is now white. That ‘they’ are right and I am wrong ... I become evangelical on their behalf, whether they want it or not, before coming to some grey compromise.
I’ve just about read enough on learning theory to be able to categorise my approach to learning.
It is ?
This comes from reading ‘Contemporary Perspectives in E-Learning Research. 2007. Edited by Grainne Conole and Martin Oliver.
The turning point, the ‘flip’ came with looking up a reference for Martin Oliver ... and deciding that I needed to see fourteen points of reference. His book, his privilege. He’d wrong-foot himself did he not refer back to previously published papers.
I've got Martin Weller in box too, bought the book.