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Edited by Terry Griffin, Monday, 5 Sept 2011, 08:51

Here is what I sad to the Today programme. It will be interesting to see if they take it up:

Just to say that in respect of enhanced interrogation techniques and extra-ordinary rendition then I humbly suggest that one of your researchers refer to Hansard on 26th February 2009 where John Hutton, now Lord, made a statement relating to Records of Detention (Review Conclusions).

Now I know that it refers to Iraq, and Afghanistan, however, you might find it ineteresting the following comments:

Hutton 'I regret that it is now clear that inaccuarte information on this particular issue has been given to the House by my Department. However, I want to stress that that was based upon the information available to Ministers and those who were briefing them at the time. My predecessors as Secretaries of State for Defence have confirmed to me that that they had no knowledge of these events.'

Now the BBC have been told about the Gibson Inquiry, may I suggest that you look at the letter from the PM to Gibson on the 6th July 2010:
'Allegations relating to military detentions in Iraq and Afghanistan post-2003 are being addressed by separate arrangements by the Ministry of Defence'.

Now if I were the BBC I would ask the PM if the Gibson Inquiry is to be made to include all detentions from wherever, to wherever, so that nobody will say in future that Gibson relates only to Iraq, and Afghanistan, and nobody asked about Libya. Also I think that all aspects of the Inquiry should be made by Gibson and that it be taken from the MoD, because of a conflict of interest, the MoD IHAT is a waste of time, people will just close ranks and plead no snitching.

 

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George Bush - Torture

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I think what many people totally fail to understand is the WWII could be justified on the basis that it became a just war, and the participants could not be open to any accusations of ill treatment, mainly because it was Just. Terrible thin...gs were done on all sides, but it was just, and soldiers could be foregiven for following orders, or 'losing it' when they came across a concentration camp, the inhumanity.

However, Afghanistan, and Iraq, and Afghanistan again, well sorry, it has come about that it is time to refuse orders, these are not legal wars, they are not Just. It is based on two wrongs, the thoughts of revenge, for 9/11, and for killing them in Afghanistan rather than on our streets.

Bush is now admitting what was known, it is almost as though 'stuff' had to be denied so that the record could be put straight in 'a book', I mean the total obsenity of it all.

I had a dream last night, that Adolf Hitler was still alive, and that he was being interviewed. Now listen, I thought that Poland had these weapons, that they were going to invade, because this bloke who was tortured told me so, and anyway they had burnt down the Rheichstag hadn't they. So, I invaded Poland, and people didn't like me for doing it, so I tortured them some more, and killed an awful lot of people, but hey, we didn't some space to expand didn't we. So anyway, thankyou for listening, the ends always justify the means.

Sorry but others would know more than most that the ends never justify the means, that torture must never be permissable, in a civilised society, and that anybody who pleads that they were following orders, well I don't need to go on. That is George Bush, and those who support him, are nothing other than Nazis, because do you know how many people Hitler tortured and killed personally? I think you will find zero, one big fat zero, it was all about following orders, from a higher authority.
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