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Irony of fate

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Edited by Michael Gumbrell, Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017, 20:55

My current job is only s 6 month fixed term contract.

I am currently half way through 

So time to apply for another position.

I am experianced for the new role i have just applied for.

Operations director of Portsmouth Historic Dockyard.

Home of those ships of Theseus.

HMS Victory and the Mary Rose.

Come on fate, i dare you too.

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More on that ship of Theseus

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Following on from my last post on the paradox of the ship of Theseus, and following on from the post of some pictures from berlin that are social science relative,

here are pictures of the two sides of the Theseus paradox.

This is the Mary Rose, completely unrestored, the only work that has gone on with her, is to preserve her timbers.

And here is the HMS Victory, the Mary Rose is preserved in the black domed building in the background:

As you can see from the picture, the top part of the Victory's three masts have been removed for some more 'restoration', ergo, 'replacement' work.

So both side of the ship of Theseus paradox, just a stones throw apart.

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The ship of Thesus

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Edited by Michael Gumbrell, Wednesday, 20 Sep 2017, 07:37

My first book had some interesting reading in it last night.

The ship of Theseus.

Is it still the same ship if every plank of wood in the ship has been replaced because of decay?

The book talked about numerically indentical and quailitive indentical.

Looking very breifly at the philosophical arguements around if the Theseus would be the same ship or the restoration means she is not the same ship.

That made me think of the 3 ships just a couple of miles away from me, in Portsmouth dockyard.

The Mary Rose, 500 years old snd preserved. No replacement of any of the wood. Just preservation work rakes place.

The HMS Victory. A classic ship of Theseus. Virtually all the wood has been replaced over the last 275 years.

The HMS Warrior also has had much of her wood replaced. However as an iron clad hull, much of her metal work is orginal.

All very intetrsting stuff.

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