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Nice one but please give credit to #8.

Can we expect to see more quotes from Shakespeare.

It's carnage on the Stock market, where is a government spokesman, like the Prime Minister, telling us not to worry, it's not as bad as it seems.

Only trouble is that any words uttered by anybody attached to this awful government will only exacerbate the situation. Their words will come back to haunt them. 'The pound in your pocket' or 'crisis what crisis', or even te classic piece of paper being waved n the air and 'peace in our time'.

Abandon hope all you who enter here.

Hi Guys,

now I have been accused of using this site as some sort of mesaage board. Well i think any such accusations are completely unfounded.

The reason, just look at what I show below as a comment on the Nick Robinson BBC blog and notice, please that where have I got my reference to Shakespeare and Faust from:-

'Now listen I am getting very annoyed. These are the comments I made yesterday #133 on Rebel Tactics:-

'I can now see why some compared him Gordon Brown) to Stalin, anybody who is not for me is against me, and I will have no challenge to my authority. Can we soon expect some show trials, recant or else. Oh for a modern day Shakespeare'.

These comments should also be read in conjunction with support from David Millibland.

I don't know, must everybody follow the Griffin.

Where is the government commentary about the financial meltdown in America. We have had 9/11 and the War on Terror, well put it in your diaries, this day will go down in history, 9/15, Great Depression II.

Some people ought to go back to read their Shakespeare, money has made us all pimps and whores. If you want to know try reading Faust/Mephistopheles Part 1,scene iv.

In fact this is actually turning into a Faustian tragedy'.

go to page 204 of the Political Thought Course Reader. Now, I know it is an extract from Karl Marx and Money, The Universal Whore so may not be to everybodys' cup of tea, but the course and the attendent supporting documentation is relevent, only some people lack the intelligence to use what they know. Not something which I lack. Modest I know but I never have been a shrinking violet, well not in public anyway.

Here, this is getting amazing. Now we have people on the radio saying that it is alright for a bank to fail, I mean Lehman Brothers, gone. Merrill Lynch, taken over by Bank of America, which sounds really good, I mean Bank of America, its not as though it has anything to do with any real Bank America, not like our Bank of England.

Now, we are also hearing about AIG, the sponsors of Manchester United pleading for money. In the meantime Newcastle United still carry the sponsors name, Northern Rock.

This is appalling, 'I don't believe it'. I know this is a stream of consciousness but I a good day to be alive, to see history being made, put it into diary, 9/15, the day it finally all went wrong.

Merrill Lynch as well, and AIG. I mean it is so brilliant to listen to people coming onto the radio and give us their expert knowledge. I mean they are so expert that they have not seen this coming, or if they did they remained silent, which is actually even worse.

If people who knew stayed silent so as not to spread doom and despondency then they are guilty of negligence. This is an appalling state of affairs, and this time the Great Depression will be a truly global one. Just as the Great War was really a European Civil War, including Europeans who had influence in America, which resulted in WWII, then the Great Depression was basically the same. This will be the equivalent of WWII, and when India and China join in then this is going to be cataclysmic, our own little Armageddon.

now the reason why I have given the title to the subject is that it is in
PPE that I am going for my BA Honours with the Open University. Also I
used to work for many years for an Investment Bank in the City of London.

Now, in all my courses I have not been achieving very high marks, in fact
I have struggled in all three areas. So, Terry I hear you say, why are you
telling us this. Well I also count myself as a bit of an historian,
especially around the Great War and the Great Depression.

By now you will have heard about the collapse of Lehman Brothers, an
American Investment bank. So now the connection.

The OU and other universities 'sell' their courses but I have always
thought that there could be a case of mis-selling, on the basis that there
is just too much theory, and not enough real working knowledge of how it
all fits together.

In order for the honours system to function, from my experience anyway, there must be a requirement to extend it to PPPE. The additional 'P' being Psychology, otherwise it just doesn't make any sense at all.

Many of the current crop of politicians think that they know it all because they have studied PPE at their university and they, therefore,have theories which they can put into practice. This is non-sense. They have no real idea as to how the economy works.

I know that it is too early to read this because you've probably had a hard week-end of partying or getting up to date with housework. Maybe you've even been doing some revision or finishing your ECA. The one thing you have probably not been able to do is to just sit and think. Yes, I have, but I have also been doing the garden in the sun, lot's of lawn to cut. Hedges to trim, but I digress.

The fantastic thing about the OU is that it gives us access to historical documents, and may I suggest that if you can look at the historic copies of the Times  go to the period in 1928 when there were huge falls on the New York Stock Exchange and the government put ever more money into the system to bail out the market. The exact same mistakes are being made today. So, you will know what happened in 1929, the year of the great stock market crash in November, but more importantly the start of the Great Depression. I think that history is about to repeat itself, we have been living in a fool's paradise, of huge government spending and redistribution of wealth through tax credits and public works , PFI schools for example.

I know that this is not really closely linked to the AXR271, but all of you are soon going to have plenty of time to put into practice your 'Thinking Philosophy' because you too are going to have plenty of gardening leave. Sorry, to be one of the four horsemen but we are heading for a financial Armageddon, hold onto your hats, but hey you can all be very philosophical about it.

It is actually becoming oh so very sad. It is like watching a video of an appalling slow motion car crash, and the result is always the same.

Is it not the case that it should Brown is now 'Groundhog day Brown'.

What will finally destroy the labour party is when at the end of this parliament, which must end sometime, the recriminations and blame will be apportioned and one, or some will always be seen as the traitor.

I wonder when Brown will find a form of words which will be the 'back me or sack me' moment. Could somebody not find an illness for him, like they did with MacMillan, so that he can go gracefully, with his dignity, because I do actually fear for him.

I'm sure that he his a good man, but he seems to me a good second in command, never the captain of the ship. Maybe he ought to read some Plato, which may explain his situation to him, and others.

I can now see why some compared him to Stalin, anybody who is not for me is against me, and I will have no challenge to my authority. Can we soon expect some show trials, recant or else. Oh for a modern day Shakespeare.

May I tell Nick Clegg that people are not giving up on politics. What I am doing is giving up on politicians.

They wouldn't care about politics if you wrapped it up in gold leaf. They, politicians, only know what is best for them. They know nothing of politics, or if they did they forgot their principles long ago.

They don't have a clue. When the time is right about a Euro referendum says the liberal democrat leader. The time was right when we would have got a better rate than what it is today. Just think what rate we would have got for our pound when the rates were agreed.

I want to know about cash for honours, and I want to know about loans to political parties. I want a public inquiry into the war in Iraq. Now, give me that then a lttle of my faith may just be restored, somehow, though I will remain outside the grubbiness of the political parties.

Who is actually really setting the Tory agenda, you don't actually think it is David Cameron, who I regard as a front man for some very unpleasant people.

You don't seriously think that Cameron is capable of setting an agenda do you, seriously I mean.

I think that is big news hidden today which will require a serious investigation. I am talking about the breaking news about GCHQ and the Omagh bombing.

This should be taken into account with the Gibraltar action where three suspected IRA terrorists were shot and killed.

It should also be taken into account with regard to the shooting and death of the young innocent Brazilian De Menezes.

It should also be taken into account with regard to the weapons of mass destruction, and the subsequent invasion of Iraq, and the deaths which have followed.

It should also be taken into account when there is the fact that there has been no inquest into the death of Doctor David Kelly.

It should also be taken into account when we know of the acquittal of terrorists accused of trying to set off explosions on planes flying to America.

It should be taken into account with regard to the allegations of a shoot to kill policy operating in Ireland.

It should be taken into account when looking at the BBC and what I will call the Gilligan affair. Is the BBC really independent anymore. Some of us have looked into the General Strike and the action of Lord Reith, and again let us not look at the BBC with rose tinted glasses.

There must be a full inquiry into the war in Iraq, it is the war which is going to bring about the downfall of Brown and this government. It will also bring about the end of this parliament.

With a new government in power, hopefully one of national unity, because the splits in our society are now reaching seismic proportions. Things have been done in my name I don't like it. I don't like it at all.

I am afraid that this country is very deep in the mire, it is not politics at fault, it is politicians, and I feel so very sad.